Tony Banks Interview - page 3 

TB: Well, it was never quite as strong a thing as that with Chester. It was a fun possibility, and we did, obviously, consider it. We did want Daryl (Stuermer), I have to say. We asked Daryl, but he was involved with Phil at the time, and he wasn’t up for it. I think had we gotten the two of them together, we might well have gone with that approach. 

From the audience point of view, it might have been easier, because there would have been Daryl and
Chester there. The problem was, Mike and I obviously write together. I think to have Chester there during the writing session would have been quite difficult, because he’s not used to the way that we work or anything. The way that we approach songwriting is different from a lot of people, I think. So, I suppose that’s why we decided against it a bit. 

Beyond that, I think the idea of just working with new people seemed quite exciting, too. We could get a whole new thing going. That was one of the other reasons. But, it was more of a tentative thing than I think is sometimes put across… this thing with
Chester
. It wasn’t such a big thing.

WOG: Whether it be through this classical project or for a rock album, do you ever see yourself touring as a solo artist?

TB: It’s one of those things that I’ve shied away from, really. There is a certain aspect of it that is quite appealing. The idea of doing the songs on stage is obviously fun, but to be the main man in something like this would be difficult for me, I think. I’ve gotten so used to depending on other people.

The way Mike does it (with the Mechanics) he is obviously very dependent on his singers and stuff. I did see Steve (Hackett) on stage a couple of months ago, and I was very impressed with the way that he kind of fronted his show. I mean, he’s not the front man anymore than I am, but got the audience on his side and it worked quite well.

 
TB: Well, not really. In the early ‘70s, we used to shout a lot, but the conflicts seem to get ironed out. There were always difficult moments. I mean, there were five creative people in the same room. We were all good friends. The main conflicts tended to come between Peter (Gabriel) and myself, I suppose. We were kind of best friends at the time, you know? So, it was a typical situation. 

I remember when we first had Phil (Collins) drumming with us, and we were rehearsing and writing stuff for the album… It must have been
Nursery Cryme. We would always have this incredible rouse. One time, Peter and I were shouting at each other, and I just left. We were in this town, and I just left and wandered around for a couple of hours and came back in again. So, those sorts of things happen, but that was just part of the process, I think.

As far as the conflicts, the only real thing that happened was during (the making of)
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. Peter got more and more distracted. The possibility of doing this film script for Bill Friedkin came up. He sort of said that doing that was more important than doing the album, and we said, “Well, if that’s how you feel…” So, there was some conflict. So, a lot of the music on the album, he was less involved with. Obviously, the story was his and the lyrics were written around that. Since we had done a lot of the album like that with the rest of us writing, when we did Trick of The Tail, it was quite simple. We got used to writing that particular way. 

In terms of conflict or arguing, they were more really in terms of chords and things. I mean, someone would say, “I want a C minor here” and I’d say, “No! You can put a C minor there!” It was more that kind of stuff. We weren’t fighting in the other sense.         

WOG: Peter Gabriel mentioned in 2002 that he had been approached regarding the possibility of a Genesis reunion. Was there something proposed or an organized plan to reunite? 


"I’ve been writing new stuff 
for the first time in a long
time as well as developing
one or two older things. So, 
there is stuff around, but I
 have no particular plans. I 
don’t know what form, if 
any, the next thing will take.
I’m in no hurry, let’s put it 
like that!"
 

  TB: There has never really been anything organized. I can’t honestly remember whether there was a time before we got together with Ray (Wilson) if there was some talk about something. It tends to come from other people more than us, really. I never rule out any kind of reunion thing, it could always happen. We’re all good friends, and we get on ok. It would be fun to revisit some of these early things perhaps, but there has really never been a plan. I think it is unlikely it would happen with Peter. That’s how I feel about it, because his own career has gone on so much in one direction.


In terms of the classical project, in order to do that live, it would be another thing all together. There are talks of orchestras that want to do it. In terms of doing something that I am organizing, I just don’t know. It would depend on how things go. 

What I would most like, in some ways, is to take a piece out of context (from Seven) and have it performed in a regular concert if you like. That’s definitely the best way to introduce people to new music. That way, you are not always preaching to the converted. If I did something, the people who would come would be the people who knew that they liked it already. It wouldn’t be people who were coming but didn’t know it.

WOG: There has been much discussion in the Genesis fan community about the Genesis Plays Jackson tapes. Is the band now in possession of the tapes? What are your thoughts on the recordings themselves? Do you plan to make those recordings available to the public?

TB: There was talk about a year or two ago that some guy got them, and they were being offered, and then there was a legal thing about them. I don’t really know. I haven’t heard them since then. We haven’t got them, no. 

  If there ever is any kind of reunion thing, it would probably be the line-up with Phil and probably Daryl and Chester. I don’t really know. I’m not itching to do it, particularly, but I’m not dismissing it either.      

WOG: What’s next for Tony Banks? You mentioned that you are writing again. What’s in the pipeline?


TB: I’ve got nothing specific in the pipeline. The Seven project was quite a big thing for me. I haven’t been able to focus on any other writing for a year or two now. It really has taken a lot out of me. It hasn’t been that easy. Between the arranging and the orchestra and the record company, and all the rest of it, you know? I finally got that out of my system, and I am finding that I can actually sit down and write a bit. 

I’ve been writing new stuff for the first time in a long time as well as developing one or two older things. So, there is stuff around, but I have no particular plans. I don’t know what form, if any, the next thing will take.  I’m in no hurry, let’s put it like that! 
I would be quite interested to hear them. I can remember vaguely, because I can remember bits and pieces from them. The final piece, I don’t remember at all. I don’t know what it is like. I’d be fascinated to hear it, actually. 

So, if we could get there before the bootleggers, which is very unlikely, then we would make them available. Again, this would probably be more as a web-release rather than anything else. I don’t see… We’ve done the archives (box sets) now. It would have been something really nice to have on the first (Genesis)
Archive box set, but we didn’t have them. Now, they have emerged. I really don’t know what they are like. I’d have to hear them a little bit to have some idea, but I remember at the time thinking they were quite good for what they were. Have you heard them?

WOG
: Only the brief snippets that were available on the web-auction site. I remember the quality of the recordings being pretty much perfect considering that they had not been touched up.

TB: Yeah. Hopefully, they would be good. We did them in a reasonable studio. Paul Samwell-Smith was the producer. He produced Cat Stevens and was a member of the Yardbirds and everything. He took a fair amount of trouble over them. I mean, they weren’t done as demos. They were done to fairly high standards, and we worked long and hard on the writing for them. 

Obviously, we ended up using most of the stuff later on. We did write most of the stuff specifically for the project, and we actually worked on it for a few weeks. So, it was a big thing for us. It wasn’t like a throw away thing.


WOG: On the new official Phil Collins DVD documentary,
A Life Less Ordinary, both Phil and Peter Gabriel discussed some of the conflict going on within Genesis in the early ‘70s in the studio. I don’t believe that has ever officially been shared by any member of the band before. In your opinion and in retrospect, were these conflicts the first signs that the band line-up would soon be changing in Genesis?








 
 

 Tony Banks - 
Selected Discography

 

Tony Banks - Seven

Tony's 2004 classical project with the London Philharmonic! Includes: "The Ram", "Spirit of Gravity", "Neap Tide", "The Gateway", etc.

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Tony Banks - Soundtracks

1986 compilation of some of Tony's soundtrack music. Includes: "Red Wing", "Shortcut To Somewhere", etc.

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Strictly Inc. 

Tony Banks' 1995 project with Jack Hues from Wang Chung! Includes: "Island In The Darkness", "Walls of Sound", etc.

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Tony Banks - A Curious Feeling

Tony's 1979 solo debut! Includes the title track, After The Lie, From The Undertow, You, Lucky Me, Forever Morning, etc.

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Bankstatement

Tony's 1989 project with Steve Hillage! Includes: "Queen of Darkness", "Throwback", "Raincloud", etc.

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Tony Banks - Still

Tony's 1991 solo album! Includes: "Angel Face", "I Wanna Change The Score", "The Final Curtain", etc.

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Tony Banks - The Fugitive

Tony's 1983 solo album! Includes: "Man of Spells", "This Is Love", "Sometime Never", "Thirty Three's", etc. 

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